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Okay, dearest Star Wars prequel haters... I want to give you guys one final honest chance, and I will treat you with as much respect as I can.

To quote someone else... George Lucas didn't ruin Star Wars. You guys did. You had certain expectations with the prequels, and they didn't meet up with them. You say they could have done anything if it wasn't so "bad"? So wait... you are saying the original trilogy is better than the prequels? I could riff the living shit out of the original trilogy if I just had the right tools to do so, and the time and patience to... not to mention, the need to.

Let's face facts here. Star Wars aren't flawless masterpieces. Star Wars aren't meant to be deep clever movies. Star Wars are just some fun actionpacked popcorn entertainment. It might have some emotional moments? Yeah, sure. But that doesn't just go for the original trilogy - the end of the final battle between Anakin and Obi-Wan in Episode 3 was pretty damn emotional too.
I can compare so much. Jar Jar Binks is annoying? So is C-3PO. Bad acting in the prequels? There's plenty of that in the prequels too. Some effects are bad in the prequels? Yeah, and the effects in the original trilogy are all SO flawless, right? I mean, especially the stop motion Rancor, right? :P When he grabbed the green pig and also Luke later, I totally felt like everything was there. 100% authentic, man.
I can go on and on, but I think I made my point... hopefully. I just wish you could stop whining and complaining. The Midi-Chlorians didn't make any sense to you? It ruined the Force for you? I can not believe how many people misinterpreted this. For the last time; the Midi-Chlorians are NOT the Force. They are there to MEASURE the POTENTIAL of the Force. I understood this even the first time I saw it back in 1999... and I was 11, people!

But I get it. Your hatred makes you blind. And look... it's not really worth it, haters. Nothing should be hated to the extent you hate this. Even IF everything you say would be valid, it's just not worth it. I think Twilight are pretty damn dumb movies - but am I doing what prequel haters does? Not even close. It's because you care so much about the original trilogy? Uhm... how do I put this nicely? THEY ARE JUST MOVIES! I can even make a parallel to Twilight since it ruined vampires to me and many others.
But I mean... do I say fans of Twilight deserves to die, like prequel haters says about the prequel fans? No. That would have been unfair, immature and stupid. I remember in Cinema Snob's vlog he made after he and his friends watched Star Wars Episode 1 in 3D, and one of his friends straight out says prequel haters should hang themselves... and he just laughs and makes a small statement that his point doesn't reflect the view on it TGWTG has. He just acts as if it's not a big deal he has a friend being THIS psychotic about it. It's disturbing, people.
Let's take another example. Would I ever say Twilight hasn't been bashed enough? No. I actually think it's kinda overdone by now. And hell, the prequels gets even MORE bashing than that. And despite this... Spoony One, AKA Noah, said in his fifth part of his commentary to To Boldly Flee that the prequels haven't been bashed enough. This isn't a character of Noah - this is his own personal point of view, and he is dead serious about it. It's not only juvenile to be like this, but it's also irrational and unhealthy... even a bit psychotic, as I said before too.

Star Wars doesn't belong to you, haters. It doesn't "belong" to anyone but George Lucas, really. And stop acting like the original trilogy means SO much, okay? They are family entertainment. That's right, I said it... and I will say it again - STAR WARS IS FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT!!! It's on the same level as Harry Potter in terms of storytelling and rating and quality. It's just meant to be a really fun and awesome experience... something you don't need to think a whole lot about, not to deep or anything. Star Wars isn't like The Lord of the Rings or such things. It's actually much easier to melt than that.

Do you want to know the whole reason why the original trilogy is so precious to you? Because of it's groundbreaking visual effects. I swear to everything I hold dear - you wouldn't care NEARLY as much about it if it wasn't for those effects. Those are half the reason why the story "works".
You come up with such odd and obscure arguments for hating the prequels... like how you felt the lightsaber fights where more authentic in the original trilogy, and more choreographed in the prequels? Uhm... are you serious? The difference between the lightsaber fights in the original trilogy and the prequels is that in the prequels, they are using actual TECHNIQUES. In the original trilogy, they just wave around their sabers in a brutal and primitive way, barely moving their bodies. Not even the slightest bit of tempo - just primeval rage. Or well, except the lightsaber fight between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader in Episode 4, which just basicly looks like two retired old farts trying to play around with swords acting like little kids.

I love both the new and old Star Wars movies, people. They are all really fun and entertaining movies... well, with the half exception of Episode 2, which I can admit had some painful scenes in it.
But come on... the constant argument I keep see popping up for even Episode 2 which I can agree on is kinda bad, is the one single line of dialogue where Anakin says he hates sand. Really now, haters? That little moment was hurting you so much, you have to bring it up again and again? Okay, I can play your game. How about the pointless teasing dialogue between Leia and Han Solo in the original trilogy - Episode 5 especially? "Oh, but that was quirky and memorable!", you say? As for me, I just found it pointless and annoying. Especially since I've always hated the love cliché in movies where we see two people hate each other just to end up loving each other. I honestly couldn't buy when they DID fall in love with each other because of this. Yes, it's as absurd to me as Ron getting together with Hermione in Harry Potter. You guys complain about Anakin and Padmé, but at least I could buy THAT as being a authentic way to handle it. It's not true love, sure - but they can relate to each other, and both have a hard time handling their situations.

What I am essentially saying is that this is all about personal opinions, dear haters. You PREFER the original trilogy? That's awesome. More power to you. But that doesn't make it wrong to also love and even prefer the prequels, okay?
Why are you guys acting so spoiled about this anyway, demanding George Lucas to satisfy your own selfish needs? It's his own stuff - he is allowed to do this. Yeah, big shock, right? And again, they are just MOVIES. They can not hurt you unless you let them. You don't like the prequels? DO NOT WATCH THEM. Easy, isn't it? Yes, of course you are allowed to watch them despite hating them and review them and everything - but if you take it so personal and you let your hatred take the best of you, then I would say it's unhealthy for you.

Please, please... haters, you are just making us all feel bad. You make yourselves feel bad for letting your hatred be on such a irrational level, and you make us feel bad for you and for mankind. Is it worth it, really? I don't think so. The Star Wars prequels didn't kill your mom - because a movie is incapable of actually killing people. It can be a contributing factor, but you can't blame a movie for that. The prequels haven't done anything bad. In fact, they expanded on the universe, which lead to some really awesome stuff - such as a whole bunch of new games, not to mention the Clone Wars show. It's you haters who makes it bad with your whining and ranting and bickering.
Leave it alone, please. Let us enjoy and love it. We can avoid and ignore your hatred of the movies you say? Sure, but then again, you guys can avoid and ignore the prequels if you hate them so much in the first place.

They are planning on doing Star Wars Episode VII, and now you are ranting about that? Take a chill pill. You don't need to watch it. Why are you even judging it before it's released? We don't know anything about it yet, dangit. Let us fans look forward to it, please. We fans of the prequels ARE nice people, haters. You can be too - I am sure of it. Just get over this hatred already, alright? I can not emphasize this enough - JUST GET OVER IT, PLEASE. Believe it or not, I am a nice and caring person - and I am saying this to all you haters because I want us all to feel good, including you. :hug:
Info about Episode VII can be found here: [link]

I would also like to share this nice video as well: [link]
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MorganKingsley Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2015  New member
Am I the only one who actually really likes Phantom Menace
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Hollohill Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2014
Reading this whole thing was almost as boring as watching the prequels.
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StartheDarkrai Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2014   Artist
Funny, I think the biggest reason why George Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney is because of the non-stop hatred towards him, the prequels, and the changes he made to the originals. Nice going guys, what a way to break a man's confidence in himself!

Ugh, the haters for the prequels make me sick, I grew up watching them in theaters, and back-to-back with the originals when they were released on DVD, and while I can see the flaws today, I still love them, hell I even cried during Revenge of the Sith, bring it on haters I can see you throwing the torches at me already. 

Star Wars is one of my all time favorite sagas, and I will continue to defend the prequels. I have no idea how the new trilogy will turn out, but I hope I will enjoy it. 

If I can say one thing to George Lucas, I would say. "Thank you." 
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FrankRT Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I honestly can't have anything against the prequels. I have... nothing. I'm just worried about the alterations that are being made to all six films!!
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ShadeTelos Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2014
My problem with this review is it comes across more as an angry-fanboy ranting than anything intelligent. You use rather atrocious reasoning, argument, and logical fallacies in this review.

It would take another essay in numerous lengths to counter argue your points properly. I don’t feel like wasting my time doing that. However, these will just be kind of general.
” You fail to understand and misrepresent criticism levied against this film. A great example, is your entire paragraph about midi-chlorians. People don’t hate the concept of because they think it is the force, though it rather destroys the concept of the Force. You make sweeping generations against so called “haters”.

I don’t care that you enjoy the Phantom Menace or any of the other prequel films. It doesn’t make you any less of a person because it. I.E. stupid.  I do care about good reasoning and arguments to back up an opinion.
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ShadeTelos Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2014
Wrong post.
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Son-of-Torgo Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013
The OT was better because the main characters actually seemed like friends that cared about one another, the actors playing them had great chemistry, the lightsaber duels were emotional and engaging because of what was at stake (something only the Anakin/ Obi-Wan duel in Episode III can claim, and even that was overlong, overly flashy, involved too many set pieces, and was therefore silly), we had iconic scenes accompanied by memorable music, such as Luke gazing longingly at the Tatooine sunset, there were silly, goofy moments, but we were never whacked over the head with them (I'm looking at you Jar Jar) and we were never, ever subjected to poo poo and fart humour once!

The OT had heart, spirit. There was some bad dialogue, but nothing as cringe-worthy as the worst lines uttered in Episodes I, II, and III. The OT had great, genuinely menacing villains. What did the Prequels have? A tattooed horned guy with no role in the plot except to fight a duel at the end of Phantom Menace; a pompous old ex-Jedi turned politician (played by a legendary and talented actor) who never gets to do much of anything, and then dies; a younger version of the main villain from Return of the Jedi, who while immensely fun, is basically his ROTJ Emperor turned up to eleven and is rather hard to take seriously.

The Clone Wars cartoon (may it rest in peace) was great, not only because of the writing, voice acting, animation, and all the love and care that went into it, but because it managed to take the gargantuan, disappointing mess that was the Prequels and make something good out of it. As far as I'm concerned, Clone Wars cartoon is the Prequels. It is only here that Anakin Skywalker is sympathetic, a likeable cross between Luke and Han; a good-hearted rogue who is easy to root for and whose eventual fate is actually sad. It is in the Clone Wars that Maul is redeemed and Count Dooku is allowed to show his real potential as a villain. They even did their best with Jar Jar Binks, even if he wasn't worth saving and could have been shoved off to the side.
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amberanime Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2013
Final note   a quote:

“Haters and bullies are always cowards, you know. They like to pick on little guys.”
Scylar Tyberius, Sebastian the Great


 
And isn't that the truth. Grown ups going all hating on the younger people and fellow adults who do not join the hate game.

Little guys: The people who like the prequels. There are much more out there then you think, but they fear to show themselves becouse of that hate and the mean people dominating the fandom on internet.  


And then some quotes  FROM THE ORIGINAL MOVIES no  less..... :

- Anger, fear, aggression... the dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. ( aggression.. dark side... hello you awake? All that agressive bashing you do is not very healthy for you. Good thing you are all are not force sensitve, we would have to much dark side wielders around I think. ;) )

- Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; HATE leads to SUFFERING.  (Enough said, Thanks Yoda!)

- Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly upon our own point of view.  (haters: your opinion is not a fact)

- Who's more foolish the fool or the fool who follows him.  (I'll let you think about this one :P )

Listen to Yoda and Obi-Wan man. They know what they are talking about! Try to actually honor the movies and characters you claim to love by listening to their lessons  ok? We will talk more after that. Thank you. :)
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amberanime Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2013
Ok one last line becouse it was to fun to resist    to all you haters:  I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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amberanime Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2013
Fully agreed,  I like all 6 movies and just want be able to share to my love for star wars with other fans. I want to spread the love for the movies not the hate. I am always sad when the prequel haters call people idiots or morons and  laugh in your face becouse you happen to like that movie. They are like bullies. Which is funny in  a sad way becouse the movies they love so much are all about taking down the bullies (to put it in a childish way)

 It is all about not letting hatred and anger take over! Fight the dark side!  And what do the fans of the movies who say that message do? They HATE and bash the prequals......Like how can you do exactly what your so loved movies tell you not to do.....I am confused by your behavior haters. You do not make sense.   And They don't stop with just not liking it, no they have to go an insult and demean people, make them feel bad about themselves and start fights on places and discussions that should be used for sharing our love for that world.

Behavior wise it's like the sith love the originals and the jedi the prequals.... Becouse most prequel fans are nice and give arguments why they love the movie. MOst of the time they get reactions like ''Your retarded, hang yourself, your crazy, I pity your taste  bla bla bla....Why so mean? Why is it a crime to love those movies? Stop acting like a dictator and let us enjoy the damn movies. Us ejoying them doesn't hurt anybody, you haters hating on us and the movies hurt plenty of people though. Haters ruin star wars. Not the movies.


Please haters, you don't have to like the prequels, but they are just movies and they dont feel your hatred. Their fans do. Is hurting people just becouse they like something different then you really ok in your eyes? There is another word for that. Dictatorship.   You sure you where not rooting for Palpatine instead of Luke? .....Becouse the sith lord would really like you all. So much hatred...all becouse of movies he was in.  Mission acomplished..he could say....You give star wars fans a bad name by your rude, childish and mean behavior. No it is not cool. It's sad that grown people need to hurt others to feel good about themselves. Very sad. I hope I will not become like that when I'm 30 and above.

Respect the fans of the prequals, because in a way aren't they like your little brothers and sisters? Fellow star wars fans? Does it really matter which movie we liked best? Is it not more fun to focus on the fact we both love star wars?

Lets share the love for it people, not spread the hate. It is uncalled for. And people who have not seen the original movies and start with the prequels have no problems with them most of the time. Or at least not more problems then they have with the original ones. I have 4 friends that never watched star wars before and I introduced them to it. They have seen all 6 movies, loved all 6 movies and even preferred the prequels becouse the old effects of the old movies where a little hard to watch for people used to this modern world. But none the less they all loved all 6 movies.

And my family, who all is into syfy and fantsay liked the prequels too. That includes over 10 people who grew up with the originals!  (Don't listen to the haters, unlike popular believe they are not the majurity, most star wars fans don't mind the prequels, it's just haters like getting attention more then lovers it seems. But then again Nice people don't feel the constand need to push their opinions down people's throat like it's a fact. They say the prequels are good for different reasons and believe most if the flaws those movies have are in fact the same flaws the originals have as well. Woody acting by some, ewoks and Jar jar (I didn't mind either of them though, my dog looks like an Ewok :P ) and others things.    They are all inteligent people who dug themselves into books and study human behavior and science, philosophy as a HOBBY.   But point is, they believe the haters are acting very immature and so do I. Seeing as most of the Haters are adults (they all claim they grew up with the original movies) that should be all more the reason not to lash out at your youngsters that much and to act in such way. That is a bad example to the youth. You are teaching them it is ok to redicule and insult people just becouse they have different tastes.  What is next? Disowning your son becouse he prefers a pear over your apple? If that kind of behavior is something to look foreward to for us younger people when we grow older then I fear for human kind as a whole. No adult should act like that.


Really haters...act like your age would make us believe you are...like adults.  Thank you.
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iamaninsomniac Featured By Owner May 29, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
I agree with this argument, though I do believe you laid it on a bit thick.
But you would be excellent at writing speeches. You support your arguments, and then provide support for the opposite side.
Like I said, good points, but the words could be a tad nicer.
Great work!
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Kurvos Featured By Owner May 29, 2013
I certainly feel the same about me laying it on a bit thick. I guess I was at the time a bit too mad at haters, you know? XP

Thanks a lot. :) I'm very glad you think so. And I will definitely consider to be a tad nicer with my words in the future. ^^;
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iamaninsomniac Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
I understand. I guess you just needed a way to vent frustrations. I think it is easier to write them than to yell them in public.
I still stand by what I said about the speeches, you have a clear understanding of how to express points of view, and I am glad to hear that your words will be nicer. In other subjects, getting angry might work, but as you said, these are just movies.
And I also can't wait for Episode VII. I have faith that Disney will do fine with it.
Good luck!
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Kurvos Featured By Owner May 31, 2013
Yeah, I guess I get so mad and frustrated because people make it such a big deal when they are just movies. But people like Amazing Atheist as a big example will never ever get the picture. He has told me personally something is wrong with me for loving Episode 1, and that I should change my opinion for my own good. Yes, he actually truly IS that bigoted and stupid.
I am mixed about Episode VII. Might be interesting, but... it will only be made for the fans of the original trilogy - AKA the mainstream movie-goers. It will not follow the novels, and they will not for instance make movies about the Old Republic. All the actual fans also referred to as "hardcore" fans are given the middle finger about this. At least that's how I see it.
Either way, I hope it could still be good. I don't know yet.

And thanks.
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iamaninsomniac Featured By Owner May 31, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
That Amazing Atheist guy is just a troll. Don't take things like that to heart.
I see your point about Episode VII, but this gives many new stories to tell, with infinite possibilities. I actually haven't read or played much of the Expanded Universe. But I would like to.
And, as long as it is a good movie, and faithful to what Star Wars stands for, I think fans will be pleased. Then again, I could be completely wrong. The only way to know is to see the finished product in 2015.
And you are welcome.
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Kurvos Featured By Owner May 31, 2013
You're right... he probably is a troll. I'll think about that.
One can hope. I won't judge the movie til I see it either way.
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iamaninsomniac Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
That's the best we can do :)
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Tyrannotitan333 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Good points. I honestly don't understand why people make such a big deal over some movies that just disappointed them. I wouldn't exactly call the films stupid however - in particular, the politics in the prequels actually were intriguing to me, with how Palpatine effortlessly manipulated the entire Republic and how the jedi partially contributed to Anakin's turn to the Dark Side. Besides that however, I pretty much agree completely.
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2013
I now afterwards realizes I was being a bit too harsh on the whole "stupid" aspect. It's just that... well, I got tired of the haters, and went a bit abrupt because of that.
But either way, thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. :)
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Tyrannotitan333 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
No problem! It's understandable too.
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samvadar Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
In my honest opinion, None of the movies are terrible, but none of them are perfect either. It doesn't matter to me. I love these movies. All six of them.
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
I agree with you, honestly. :)
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samvadar Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
The only thing I disagree with is that you said they're dumb fun movies. While you're entitled to your opinion, I wouldn't call them dumb, I'd call them imaginative. I know a lot of the stuff is far fetched, but that doesn't make them dumb. Again, your opinion is your own, and I have no intention of changing it. I just wish you would use a less negative word
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
I am sorry, but you're actually right about that from my perspective too. I was being too harsh on it by saying what I said. >_<; I think it's the prequel haters getting to me - and my counter-arguments gets a bit overly harsh. Sorry.
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samvadar Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
It's okay. I understand. People can be frustrating, and we tend to be overly harsh when we get frustrated. One last thing, while C-3P0 and Jar Jar are annoying(though I never found them annoying), they are a lovable kind of annoying, you know the kind that makes you laugh. I'm sue that's what you meant, but I thought I just point out my opinion, again, without forcing it on to anyone. And about Yoda fighting, I actually found it more bad-ass than funny. Again, without forcing my opinion to anyone.
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
Thanks. ^^; And yeah, I can see that too - I can enjoy Jar Jar Binks and C-3PO despite them being annoying.
And I think Yoda fighting is both badass and funny, I must say. :XD:
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samvadar Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
And to those who say the acting and effects in any of the SW movies are bad, I can think of some films where they are much worse. Godzilla 1998 for example, or Never-ending story 3. Again, only my opinion
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samvadar Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
Okay one last thing, and I swear I'm done. The lightsaber fights in the originals aren't perfect,but they were still pretty great, and to their credit, David Prowse(Vader's suit actor) was in a suit that made movement very awkward and Sir Alec Guinness(Obi Wan) was not as nimble as he used to be. As for Mark Hamil(Luke), I don't think he(or any of the actors for that matter) had as much training, or time for training like they did in the prequels, but for what they did have, it was pretty good. Again, not trying to force my opinion, just wanted to let yo know what I think
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Anathemas05 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
You don't really get it do you? First off, I was excited for everyone of the prequels that came out, hell I saw one of them at a midnight showing, and I absolutely loved the original trilogy. Guess what? Your prequels, that's right your, are not holy either, and they were not good films even on their own without the originals. When I saw episode 1, I was confused, bored, and miserable, I was 11-12 also! Episode 2 I was more bored, than anything, and the highlight of the film was when yoda broke out his lightsaber and started hoping around, why? Because the ENTIRE theater broke out laughing.
The third film, I remember because I was working the night shift, and it was my first day off in a month, the only thing enjoyable about that movie was the end, where some emotion and acting took place, along with the credits.
I spent time and money on that shit. I could have been doing ANYTHING else with my time. Not only did it kill my time, but it ruined Darth Vader. Yes, he is ruined, not to mention copy and pasted into the new ending of Jedi, thanks Lucas! So yes, I get to hate them, for the horrible piles that they are, and you cannot take that away from me, nor demand that I stop my hate. Am I looking forward to episode 7? You're right I am! Why? Because I'm stupid like that. Not to mention that Lucas has proved to be a poor handler of the series so for, atleast the films, merchandising he has done wonders with.
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
You said this: "Your prequels, that's right your, are not holy either, and they were not good films even on their own without the originals."
First of all, they are not mine. Second, I know they aren't holy. You apparently did not read what I wrote properly - I said they have their flaws and are no masterpieces, but just fun dumb popcorn flicks to me. Third, it's a subjective opinion to call them bad.
If you hate them, that's fine. I didn't say you're not allowed to hate them and prefer the original trilogy. I just think it's silly to bash them and be delusional about the original trilogy having less flaws when it hasn't. The prequels have some different flaws than the original trilogy, sure - doesn't make it better or worse.

I don't get it? There is nothing to get. All you said here is "The movies sucks, and I wasted my time and money on them, and they suck!", basically. And yes, of course everyone laughed when Yoda fought with his lightsaber the first time - it's a surprise to see, and hilariously awesome.
I worked very hard on explaining here how the prequels does not deserve all the hate. And guess what? Your comment is absolutely pointless and nothing but a juvenile minor rant from a upset prequel hater.

You're forgetting that opinions aren't objective, and that I am entitled to love the prequels as much as you are entitled to hate them. You're not right about the prequels being bad movies - that's not a statistic fact. It IS a statistic fact that they are impopular, but that's another thing.
You have nothing to say other than how you're irrationally hating the prequels for being disappointed. Get over it, and come back when you have something proper and more adult to say. Thank you, and please have a nice day. I wish you no harm or offense. And more power to you for preferring the original trilogy.
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Anathemas05 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
I can point out so much more, and tear down your entire argument but I really don't care that much anymore, if you want a more in depth look at it, red letter media. Also I would look to point out how you say you mean no offense or harm, but then belittle my opinion before hand. Nice contradiction. Also a movie being generally disliked by the majority is what's called fact. Can also be proven by the god awful acting, and script. These were not good movies.

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Not good ratings on any of them. The only one with a passing grade is Revenge. If you say that's just one site, I can pull from three others with similar to lower ratings. That's fine you enjoy watching people dance with swords. That's fine you enjoy a paper thing plot. But do not sit there and tell me you enjoyed one minute of those senate scenes. Also the reason people were laughing at Yoda was not because it was awesome, but because it was stupid and ridiculous.
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jtimmel Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013
I'm going to attempt to get something to penetrate that thick skull of yours, I don't know if I'll succeed. Obviously I think I have a chance if I'm bothering to write this comment. So let me begin.

There are NO OBJECTIVELY GOOD OR BAD FILMS. Period.

Neither the Star Wars prequels nor any films can be "proven" to be good or bad films, as the quality of the important aspects such as acting or writing is ALL based on opinion. Sure, the critics may have their "educated opinions" on the subject, but they are and forever will be just that: OPINIONS. You see, an acting performance that is poor and unrealistic to some may be just the opposite for another. Same with dialogue. Even the most mighty critics in the land disagree all the time on topics like this. Who are we to say which of them is correct, especially if they're both giving us nothing but OPINIONS?

If a movie is disliked by the majority of people who have seen it, that does NOT make it factually bad! All too often are opinions masqueraded as facts (it happens quite a lot, actually, and not just about movies).

Now here's an important question, so pay attention. What is the point of trying to prove why they're "not good movies"? If Kurvos likes them, why does it matter? Are you trying to prove that his opinion is wrong? Are you trying to make him feel bad for having that opinion? Are you trying to recruit more drones to fight for the Cause? Or are you just butthurt that you came across someone that doesn't agree with you?

And it's so annoying how every single prequel hater tries to prove why the prequels are bad by "enlightening" us with RedLetterMedia. It's so annoying how every prequel hater brushes off every prequel lover as "unintelligent" or "uneducated". I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can know everything there is to know about film and still like the prequels. That's actually possible (you wouldn't understand, you don't seem like the kind of person who would be so bold). And NO, it doesn't involve simply ignoring all the flaws. Along with what I said earlier, unless it's something obvious like a continuity error or a visible crew member, what is a flaw to one is not to another.

It is a fact that you don't like the prequels. It is a fact that they are generally hated (on the internet, at least). It is a fact that I have become increasingly annoyed with prequel haters. It is NOT a fact that they are bad films. It is NOT a fact that they are good films (don't need to tell YOU twice...). It is NOT a fact that the originals are good or bad films. It is also NOT a fact that Citizen Kane or The Godfather is the greatest film of all time (Simply the fact that there is such a huge disagreement about which is greater shows this).

It is also NOT a fact that the hate for the prequel trilogy has become incredibly loud and out of control, but it is an opinion to which I hold strongly. I don't mind people hating the movies, but I DO mind how they act on that hate. I'd say the Star Wars prequels are easily the most hated movies ever made. And it's so depressing to see how the prequel lovers have to pay for it. It's not just about tolerating different opinions, I'm talking about the bullying they often have to deal with. The haters are more immature than Jar Jar Binks. When are people gonna quiet down? What's it gonna take?
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
Oh, and one last thing - learn to respect opinions, and grow up... please.
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AnathemasL05 Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
When all you're doing is trying to validate your opinion online with other like minded people, essentially stroking your own ego because no one in your circle of friends agrees with you, so you reach out here hoping the shit you spew sticks. And now we are basically at the point where all I'll get from you is a "u mad bro?", you cannot try and convince me otherwise or see some of your opinion since your magnum opus of trying to convince the "haters" of the film. Who have every right to hate it as much as they want as long as they are not violent about it. Also you try and act like the better man when from the beginning you insult, and rationalize my opinion when you know nothing of me.
So I hope when day that you wake up and realize you are not the center of the universe and your shit stinks as much as anyone.

And it's not "I shall leave you be". It is: Good day to you sir.

Also you pussy, blocking me like a bitch.
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BunnyHat-J Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Student General Artist
No one is trying to validate an opinion, since it's an already valid opinion. Why would you judge an opinion as invalid just because it's different from yours in the first place?

All I see is that every sentence that you wrote applies more to you than it applies to these other guys. They were actually respectful in their opinions, and they have the right to complain about haters because they often say VERY disturbing things and attack people who like the prequels for reasons that my -thank God- sane mind can't relate to or understand completely. Sorry, but I'm no psychologist. No one is trying to convince you to change your opinion about the prequels, they even said you have the right to dislike whatever you want tot dislike. What they're trying to do is to give at least a small spark or thought into this more disturbing type of haters' brains so that they (at least a bit) stop attacking, bashing and HURTING people in the Internet, just because they like the prequels and have opinions different from theirs. People insult others just because a director portrayed Anakin as immature? Please, I'm sure even Anakin is portrayed as much more mature than these haters that insult and say their life has been ruined over a film.

So I hope that one day you wake up and realize you are not the center of the universe and that your opinions lose ALL their value when you start cursing or swearing, because that sort of speech has never, ever helped prove a point or an opinion. No one has the right to discredit other people, even if their opinions are on the antipodes of your own opinions, and specially when you don't know the person you're talking to. The same applies to you.

And in the end, you want the respect you damaged yourself. But even then I'm going to say God bless you, and have a good day. And I mean it. I just hope that one day you open up your mind and learn to respect the thousands of different opinions that this wide, huge world has about everything you can imagine, and learn that opinions that don't hurt other people or aren't offensive in term of human values deserve respect.
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
You know, I didn't even read what you just now wrote. I said bye - and this I write now is the last thing I will ever write to you. I have no time for immature crybabies. :)
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
See? Your hatred is irrational and juvenile. All you do now is to bash and hate, bash and hate. I feel sorry for you, and I shall leave you be. Bye... hope you one day get over your immature rage.
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Benn-Klingon Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
good points. unfortunatly it seems that it has become hip in pop culture to hate the prequels. anybody who suppose to know anything about sci-fi and movies is by default suppose to hate the prequels. im most annoyed by those within the SW fan community who just assume that every SW fan hates the prequels. To many of these ppl tho, the orginals are like religious scripture and cannot be faulted or even seriously analyzed. i grew up with the originals - and even remember going to the theater to see star wars in 77, but i have come to enjoy the prequels much more. for me the prequels have a much richer backdrop - visually and as far as characters and stories.
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
Thanks a lot, I did my best. But yeah, tha's really sad. :( I just hope we can help the haters become more rational by reading things like this. I mean... it's not too much to ask for, really.
It's just juvenile and downright stupid to let their hatred go this far.
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darthfomalhaut Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2012
I have actually decided to move away from Star Wars for a little while. Don't worry, you're not to blame; you would never be the reason that I would give up on Star Wars for the time being. It's just that after Disney buying Lucasfilm, I felt that I had to move on for a little bit.

But yeah, seriously, I can't stress this deal enough either. I have said it once, and I will say it again: LEAVE THE PREQUELS ALONE!

Good example with Twilight; I heavily dislike it too, but I also understand that there are many Twilight fans out there and that I don't offend them or overblow my hatred in the same exact ways that the prequel haters do. It's NOT THAT FUCKING HARD!

But... yeah, prequel haters need to chill the hell out.

P.S. On Star Wars and LOTR, I feel that way too! LOTR is awesome, don't get me wrong, but it's meant to be incredibly serious. Star Wars is for family fun, not meant to be LOTR in any way (outside of the fact that they are indeed both fantasies in some extent)

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"Dream big and dare to fail! I dare you to do that!" - James Hetfield
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012
I understand and respect your decision, my friend. :)

I agree on those things you say. Well said is all I can say. ^^; I mean, dangit... just to keep on and on hating it and bashing it won't do you any good. Pffh, try to convince Spoony One that after the shit he said, huh? :P

But yeah. I can certainly say that despite it's few dark moments, Star Wars are basically feel-good movies. LOTR is more dark and serious... even though it has some great humor in it occassionally, which just makes it more awesome to me. :D

Either way, thanks for the comment.
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BlackBlueDawg Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Must read, I would say. :D
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012
Thanks a lot. :meow:
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BlackBlueDawg Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
No problem. ;) :hug:
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012
^^; Some of the things I said here, I actually got from you. ;)
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BlackBlueDawg Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah. I think I can actually see some parts like that there. ^^ Thanks. ;)
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Kurvos Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012
No worries. :)
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BlackBlueDawg Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:thumbsup:
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TyrannosaurusPrime Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2012
Not exactly related to your post, but there will be a new Star Wars trilogy, this time by Disney: [link]
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